National Visitor Use Monitoring Results
August 2002
USDA Forest Service
Region 3
APACHE - SITGREAVES NATIONAL FOREST
Prepared by:
Susan M. Kocis
Stanley J. Zarnoch
Ross Arnold
Larry Warren
Scope
and purpose of the National Visitor Use Monitoring project
CHAPTER
1: SAMPLE DESIGN AND IMPLEMENTATION
The
NVUM Process and Definition of Terms
Constraints
On Uses of the Results
The
Forest Stratification Results
Table
1. Population of available site days for
sampling and percentage of days sampled by stratum
CHAPTER
2: VISITATION ESTIMATES
Table
2. Apache Sitgreaves National Forest
annual recreation use estimate
Table
3. Number of last-exiting recreation
visitors by site type and form type 1/
Table
4. Gender distribution of
Apache-Sitgreaves NF recreation visitors
Table
5. Age distribution of Apache-Sitgreaves
NF recreation visitors
Table
6. Race/ethnicity of Apache-Sitgreaves NF
recreation visitors
Table
7. Zip codes of Apache-Sitgreaves NF
recreation visitors
Average
number of people per vehicle and average axle count per vehicle in survey
CHAPTER
3: WILDERNESS VISITORS
Table
8. Age distribution of Apache-Sitgreaves
NF Wilderness visitors
Table
9. Race/ethnicity of Apache-Sitgreaves
NF Wilderness visitors
Table
10. Zip codes of Apache-Sitgreaves NF
Wilderness visitors
Table
11. Satisfaction of Apache-Sitgreaves NF
Wilderness visitors
CHAPTER
4: DESCRIPTION OF THE VISIT
Table
12. Site visit length of stay (in hours)
by site/type
Table
13. Apache-Sitgreaves NF activity
participation and primary activity
Use
of constructed facilities and designated areas
Table
14. Percentage use of facilities and
specially designated areas
Table
15. Substitute behavior choices of
Apache-Sitgreaves NF recreation visitors
Average
yearly spending on outdoor recreation.
Visitors’
average spending on a trip to the forest
Visitor
Satisfaction Information
Table
16. Satisfaction of recreation visitors
at Apache-Sitgreaves NF Developed Day Use sites
Table
17. Satisfaction of Apache-Sitgreaves NF
recreation visitors at Developed Overnight sites
Table
18. Satisfaction of Apache-Sitgreaves NF
recreation visitors in General Forest Areas
Table
19. Perception of crowding by recreation
visitors by site type (percent site visits)
Table
20. List of comments received from
Apache-Sitgeaves NF recreation visitors
The National Visitor Use Monitoring (NVUM) project was implemented as a response to the need to better understand the use and importance of and satisfaction with national forest system recreation opportunities. This level of understanding is required by national forest plans, Executive Order 12862 (Setting Customer Service Standards), and implementation of the National Recreation Agenda. To improve public service, the agency’s Strategic and Annual Performance Plans require measuring trends in user satisfaction and use levels. It will assist Congress, Forest Service leaders, and program managers in making sound decisions that best serve the public and protect valuable natural resources by providing science based, reliable information about the type, quantity, quality and location of recreation use on public lands. The information collected is also important to external customers including state agencies and private industry. NVUM methodology and analysis is explained in detail in the research paper entitled: Forest Service National Visitor Use Monitoring Process: Research Method Documentation; English, Kocis, Zarnoch, and Arnold; Southern Research Station; May 2002 (http://www.fs.fed.us/recreation/programs/nvum).
In conjunction with guidelines and recommendations from the Outdoor Recreation Review Commission, the USDA-Forest Service has estimated recreation use and maintained records since the 1950s. Many publications on preferred techniques for estimating recreation use at developed and dispersed recreation sites were sponsored by Forest Service Research Stations and Universities. Implementation of these recommended methodologies takes specific skills, a dedicated work force, and strict adherence to an appropriate sampling plan. The earliest estimates were designed to estimate use at developed fee recreation facilities such as campgrounds. These estimates have always been fairly reliable because they are based upon readily observable, objective counts of items such as a fee envelope.
Prior to the mid-1990s, the Forest Service used its Recreation Information
Management (RIM) system to store and analyze recreation use information. Forest managers often found they lacked the
resources to simultaneously manage the recreation facilities and monitor
visitor use following the established protocols. In 1996, the RIM monitoring protocols were no
longer required to be used.
In 1998 a group of research and forest staff were appointed to investigate and pilot a recreation sampling system that would be cost effective and provide statistical recreation use information at the forest, regional, and national level. Since that time, a permanent sampling system (NVUM) has been developed. Several Forest Service staff areas including Recreation, Wilderness, Ecosystem Management, Research and Strategic Planning and Resource Assessment are involved in implementing the program. A four-year cycle of data collection was established. In any given year, 25 percent of the national forests conduct on-site interviews and sampling of recreation visitors. The first 25 percent of the forests included in the first four-year cycle completed sampling in December of 2000. The second group of forests began sampling October 2000 and completed sampling September 2001. The last 25 percent of the first, four-year cycle forests will complete their sampling in September 2003. The cycle begins again in October 2004. This ongoing cycle will provide quality recreation information needed for improving citizen centered recreation services.
This
data can be very useful for forest planning and decision making. The information provided can be used
in economic efficiency analysis that requires providing a value per National
Forest Visit. This can then be compared
to other resource values. The description
of visitor characteristics (age, race, zip code, activity participation) can
help the forest identify the type of recreation niche they fill. The satisfaction information can help
management decide where best to place limited resources that would result in
improved visitor satisfaction. The
economic expenditure information can help forests show local communities the
employment and income effects of tourism from forest visitors. In addition, the credible use statistics can
be helpful in considering visitor capacity issues.
NVUM has standardized definitions of visitor use measurement to ensure that all national forest visitor measurements are comparable. These definitions are basically the same as established by the Forest Service since the 1970s, however the application of the definition is stricter. Visitors must pursue a recreation activity physically located “on” Forest Service managed land in order to be counted. They cannot be passing through; viewing from non-Forest Service managed roads, or just using restroom facilities. The NVUM basic use measurements are national forest visits and site visits. Along with these use measurements basic statistics, which indicate the precision of the estimate, are given. These statistics include the error rate and associated confidence intervals at the 80 percent confidence level. The definitions of these terms follow.
National forest visit - the entry of one person upon a national forest to participate in recreation activities for an unspecified period of time. A national forest visit can be composed of multiple site visits.
Site visit - the entry of one person onto a national forest site or area to participate in recreation activities for an unspecified period of time.
Recreation trip – the duration of time beginning when the visitor left their home and ending when they got back to their home.
Confidence level and error rate - used together these two terms define the reliability
of the estimated visits. The confidence
level provides a specified level of certainty for a confidence interval
defining a range of values around the estimate.
The error rate (which is never a bad thing like making an error on a
test) is expressed as a percent of the estimate and can be used to obtain the
upper and lower bounds of the confidence interval. The lower the error rate and the higher the
confidence level the better the estimate.
An 80 percent confidence level is very acceptable for social science
applications at a broad national or forest scale. The two terms are used to describe the
estimate. For example: At the 80 percent confidence level there are
240 million national forest visits plus or minus 15 percent. In other words we are 80 percent confident
that the true number of national forest visits lies between 204 million and 276
million.
To participate in the NVUM
process, forests first categorized all recreation sites and areas into five
basic categories called “site
types”: Day Use Developed Sites (DUDS),
Overnight Use Developed Sites (OUDS), Wilderness, General Forest Areas (GFA),
and View Corridors (VC). Only the first
four categories are considered “true” national forest visits and were included
in the estimate provided. Within these
broad categories (called site types) every open day of the year for each
site/area was rated as high, medium or low last exiting recreation use. Sites/areas that are scheduled to be closed
or would have “0” use were also identified.
Each day on which a site or area is open is called a site day and is the
basic sampling unit for the survey.
Results of this forest categorization are shown in Table 1.
A map showing all General Forest Exit locations and View
Corridors was prepared and archived with the NVUM data for use in future sample
years. NVUM also provided training
materials, equipment, survey forms, funding, and the protocol necessary for the
forest to gather visitor use information.
NVUM terms used in the site categorization framework are
defined below:
Site day - a day that a recreation site or area is open to the public
for recreation purposes.
Site types -- stratification of a forest recreation site or area into one
of five broad categories as defined in the paper: Forest Service National
Visitor Use Monitoring Process: Research Method Documentation, May 2002,
English et al. The categories are Day
Use Developed sites (DUDS), Overnight Use Developed Sites (OUDS), General
Forest Areas (GFA), Wilderness (WILD), and View Corridors (VC). Another category called Off-Forest Recreation
Activities (OFRA) was categorized but not sampled.
Proxy – information collected at a recreation site or area that is
related to the amount of recreation visitation received. The proxy information must pertain to all
users of the site, it must be an exact tally of use and it must be one of the
proxy types allowed in the NVUM pre-work directions (fee receipts, fee
envelopes, mandatory permits, permanent traffic counters, ticket sales, and
daily use records).
Nonproxy – a recreation site or area that does not have proxy
information. At these sites a 24-hour
traffic count is taken to measure total use for one site day at the sample
site.
Use level strata - for either proxy or nonproxy sites, each day that a
recreation site or area was open for recreation, the site day was categorized
as either high, medium or low last exiting recreation traffic, or closed. Closed was defined as either administratively
closed or “0” use. For example Sabino
Picnic Area (a DUDS nonproxy site) is closed for 120 days, has high last
exiting recreation use on open weekends (70 days) and medium last exiting
recreation use on open midweek days (175 days).
This accounts for all 365 days of the year at Sabino Picnic area. This process was repeated for every developed
site and area on the forest.
The information
presented here is valid and applicable at the forest level. It is not designed to be accurate at the
district or site level. The quality of
the visitation estimate is dependent on the preliminary sample design
development, sampling unit selection, sample size and variability, and survey
implementation. First, preliminary work
conducted by forests to classify sites consistently according to the type and
amount of visitation influences the quality of the estimate. Second, visitors sampled must be
representative of the population of all visitors. Third, the number of visitors sampled must be
large enough to adequately control variability.
Finally, the success of the forest in accomplishing its assigned sample
days, correctly filling out the interview forms, and following the sample
protocol influence the error rate. The
error rate will reflect all these factors.
The smaller the error rate, the better the estimate. Interviewer error in asking the questions is
not necessarily reflected in this error rate.
Large error rates (i.e. high variability) in the national forest visit (NFV), site visit (SV) and Wilderness visit estimates is primarily caused by a small sample size in a given stratum (for example General Forest Area low use days) where the use observed was beyond that stratum’s normal range. For example, on the Clearwater National Forest in the General Forest Area low stratum, there were 14 sample days. Of these 14 sample days, 13 days had visitation estimates between 0-20. One observation had a visitation estimate of 440. Therefore, the stratum mean was about 37 with a standard error of 116. The 80% confidence interval width is then 400% of the mean, a very high error rate (variability). Whether these types of odd observations are due to unusual weather, malfunctioning traffic counters, or a misclassification of the day (a sampled low use day that should have been categorized as a high use day) is unknown. Eliminating the unusual observation from data analyis could reduce the error rate. However, the NVUM team had no reason to suspect the data was incorrect and did not eliminate these unusual cases.
The descriptive information about national forest visitors is based upon only those visitors that were interviewed. If a forest has distinct seasonal use patterns and activities that vary greatly by season, these patterns may or may not be adequately captured in this study. This study was designed to estimate total number of people during a year. Sample days were distributed based upon high, medium, and low exiting use days, not seasons. When applying these results in forest analysis, items such as activity participation should be carefully scrutinized. For example, although the Routt National Forest had over 1 million skier visits, no sample days occurred during the main ski season; they occurred at the ski area but during their high use summer season. Therefore, activity participation based upon interviews did not adequately capture downhill skiers. This particular issue was adjusted. However, the same issue- seasonal use patterns- may still occur to a lesser degree on other forests. Future sample design will attempt to incorporate seasonal variation in use.
Some forest visitors
were counted and included in the total forest use estimate but were not
surveyed. This included visitors to
recreation special events and organization camps.
The results of the recreation site/area stratification and sample days accomplished by this forest are displayed in Table 1. This table describes the population of available site days open for sampling based on forest pre-work completed prior to the actual surveys. Every site and area on the forest was categorized as high, medium, low, or closed last exiting recreation use. This stratification was then used to randomly select sampling days for this forest. The project methods paper listed on page one describes the sampling process and sample allocation formulas in detail. Basically, at least eight sample days per stratum are randomly selected for sampling and more days are added if the stratum is very large. Also displayed on the table is the percentage of sample days per stratum accomplished by the forest.
|
|
Nonproxy |
Proxy |
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|
Strata |
Total days in
nonproxy population |
Days sampled # Percent |
Total days in
proxy population |
Days sampled # Percent |
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|
OUDS H |
4 |
22.2 |
4,572 |
12 |
0.3 |
|
|
OUDS M |
47 |
8 |
17.0 |
|||
|
OUDS L |
1,743 |
9 |
0.5 |
|||
|
DUDS H |
281 |
12 |
4.2 |
167 |
3 |
1.8 |
|
DUDS M |
301 |
10 |
3.3 |
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|
DUDS L |
5,142 |
11 |
0.2 |
|||
|
Wild H |
60 |
9 |
15.0 |
|
|
|
|
Wild M |
133 |
9 |
6.8 |
|||
|
Wild L |
1,187 |
9 |
0.8 |
|||
|
GFA H |
601 |
15 |
2.5 |
276 |
4 |
1.4 |
|
GFA M |
2,204 |
19 |
0.9 |
|||
|
GFA L |
10,203 |
14 |
0.1 |
|||
|
TOTALS |
21,920 |
129 |
|
5,015 |
19 |
|
Visitor use estimates are available at the national, regional, and
forest level. Only forest level data is
provided here. For national and regional
reports visit the following web site: (http://www.fs.fed.us/recreation/programs/nvum).
|
National
Forest Visits |
Site
Visits |
Wilderness
Visits |
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|
Visits |
Error Rate |
Visits |
Error Rate |
Visits |
Error Rate |
|
14.1
% |
2,391,594 |
14
% |
45,690 |
56
% |
|
The forest participated in the
National Visitor Use Monitoring (NVUM) project from October 2000 through
September 2001. The main contact person
was Kristen Johnson. The forest was
assigned 157 interview days, including 8 viewing corridor days, and
accomplished 156 of them (accomplished 99 percent). The forest had a typical weather year and no
forest fire closures. The forest
coordinator reported that the traffic counters were at least 90% accurate and
may have under counted about 10% of the time.
Recreation use on the forest for fiscal year 2001 at the 80 percent
confidence level was 1.98 million national forest visits +/- 14 percent. There were 2.39 million site visits, an
average of 1.2 site visits per national forest visit. Included in the site visit estimate are 45,690
Wilderness visits.
A total of 1,757 visitors were contacted on the forest during
the sample year. Of these, 7 percent
refused to be interviewed. Of the 1,630
people who agreed to be interviewed, about 15 percent were not recreating,
including 3 percent who just stopped to use the bathroom, 1 percent were
working, 8 percent were just passing through, and 4 percent had some other
reason to be there. About 85 percent of
those interviewed said their primary purpose on the forest was recreation and
87 percent of them were exiting for the last time. Of the visitors leaving the forest agreeing
to be interviewed, about 74 percent were last exiting recreation visitors (the
target interview population). Table 3
displays the number of last-exiting recreation visitors interviewed at each
site type and the type of interview form they answered.
|
Form Type |
Day Use |
Overnight |
General Forest |
Wilderness |
|
Basic |
100 |
201 |
73 |
|
|
Satisfaction |
122 |
47 |
97 |
29 |
|
Economics |
115 |
47 |
99 |
33 |
1/ Form type means the
type of interview form administered to the visitor. The basic form did not ask either economic or
satisfaction questions. The Satisfaction
form did not ask economic questions and the economic form did not ask
satisfaction questions.
Basic descriptors of the
forest visitors were developed based upon those visitors interviewed then
expanded to the national forest visitor population. Tables 4 and 5 display gender and age
descriptors.
|
Gender |
Female 26.3 |
|
Age Group |
Percent in
group |
|
Under 16 |
|
|
16-20 |
0.7 |
|
21-30 |
9.3 |
|
31-40 |
14.4 |
|
41-50 |
16.9 |
|
51-60 |
14.3 |
|
61-70 |
17.6 |
|
Over 70 |
5.2 |
Visitors categorized themselves into one of
seven race/ethnicity categories. Table 6
gives a detailed breakout by category.
|
Category |
Total percent National forest
visits |
|
Black/African American |
|
|
Asian |
0.8 |
|
White |
89.8 |
|
American Indian/Alaska Native |
0.8 |
|
Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander |
0.3 |
|
Spanish, Hispanic, or Latino |
7.7 |
|
Other |
0.2 |
Less than one percent
of forest visitors were from another country.
The survey did not collect country affiliation. Visitors most frequently reported zip codes
are shown in Table 7. The forest can
determine what percent of local visitor use they have by comparing the local
forest zip codes to those listed. The
zip code data for the forest will also soon be available on a database. There were about 330 different zip codes
reported. This information can be used
with programs such as “fipzip” or census data for more extensive analysis.
|
Zip Code |
Frequency |
Percent |
|
23 |
2.1 |
|
|
85920 |
22 |
2.0 |
|
86025 |
22 |
2.0 |
|
85901 |
20 |
1.8 |
|
85254 |
18 |
1.7 |
|
85296 |
18 |
1.7 |
|
85202 |
16 |
1.5 |
|
85302 |
16 |
1.5 |
|
85936 |
15 |
1.4 |
|
85203 |
13 |
1.2 |
|
85345 |
13 |
1.2 |
|
85032 |
12 |
1.1 |
|
85051 |
12 |
1.1 |
|
85204 |
12 |
1.1 |
|
85226 |
12 |
1.1 |
|
85301 |
12 |
1.1 |
|
85205 |
11 |
1.0 |
|
85228 |
11 |
1.0 |
|
85224 |
11 |
1.0 |
|
|
|
|
There
was an average of 2.5 people per vehicle with an average of 2.1 axles per
vehicle. This information in conjunction
with traffic counts was used to expand observations from individual interviews
to the full forest population of recreation visitors. This information may be useful to forest
engineers and others who use vehicle counters to conduct traffic studies.
Several questions on the NVUM survey form
dealt directly with use of designated Wilderness. Wilderness was sampled 27 days on the
forest. There were 81.1 percent male and
18.9 percent female visitors to Wilderness on the forest. Tables 8 and 9 display the age distribution
and race/ethnicity of Wilderness visitors.
|
Age Group |
Percent
in group |
|
Under 16 |
|
|
16-20 |
0.0 |
|
21-30 |
5.4 |
|
31-40 |
11.2 |
|
41-50 |
32.6 |
|
51-60 |
19.6 |
|
61-70 |
11.3 |
|
Over 70 |
3.1 |
|
Category |
Total
percent national
forest visits |
|
Black/African American |
|
|
Asian |
0.1 |
|
White |
92.0 |
|
American Indian/Alaska Native |
0.0 |
|
Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander |
0.0 |
|
Spanish, Hispanic, or Latino |
5.3 |
|
Other |
2.6 |
The Wilderness visitors were from a wide variety of zip
codes. The distribution of Wilderness
visitor zip codes is shown in Table 10.
There were over 50 different zip codes reported.
|
Zip Code |
Frequency |
Percent |
|
6 |
3.1 |
|
|
85020 |
4 |
2.1 |
|
85021 |
4 |
2.1 |
|
85718 |
4 |
2.1 |
|
85749 |
4 |
2.1 |
|
85901 |
4 |
2.1 |
|
85935 |
4 |
2.1 |
|
85018 |
3 |
1.6 |
|
85044 |
3 |
1.6 |
|
85260 |
3 |
1.6 |
|
85296 |
3 |
1.6 |
|
85302 |
3 |
1.6 |
|
85614 |
3 |
1.6 |
|
85711 |
3 |
1.6 |
|
|
|
|
The average length of stay in Wilderness on the forest was 4.6
hours. In addition, all visitors were
asked on how many different days they entered into designated Wilderness during
their national forest visit even if we interviewed them at a developed
recreation site or general forest area. Of those visitors who did enter
designated Wilderness, they entered 2.4 different days.
Less than one percent of those interviewed in Wilderness said
they used the services of a commercial guide.
Table 11 gives detailed information about how the Wilderness
visitors rated various aspects of the area.
An general example of how to interpret this information: If the visitors
had rated the importance of the adequacy of signage a 5.0 (very important) and
they rated their satisfaction with the adequacy of signage a 3.0 (somewhat satisfied) then the forest might be
able to increase visitor satisfaction.
Perhaps twenty-nine percent of visitors said the adequacy of signage was
poor. The forest could target improving
this sector of visitors for increased satisfaction by improving the signage for
Wilderness.
Wilderness visitors on the average rated their visit 2.3 (on a
scale from 1 to 10) concerning crowding, meaning they felt there were few
people there. Zero percent said the area
they visited was overcrowded (a 10 on the scale) and 26 percent said there was
hardly anyone there (a 1 on the scale).
|
Item Name |
Item by Percent response By * P
F A G VG |
Mean ** Satisfaction Of Visitors (n) |
Mean ** Importance To Visitors (n) |
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|
Scenery |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.8 |
99.2 |
5.0 29 |
4.9 29 |
|
|
Available parking |
0.0 |
0.0 |
11.4 |
21.2 |
67.4 |
4.6 29 |
4.2 28 |
|
Parking lot condition |
0.0 |
0.0 |
12.7 |
19.6 |
67.7 |
4.6 27 |
4.1 27 |
|
Cleanliness of restrooms |
0.0 |
0.0 |
2.5 |
41.1 |
56.5 |
4.5 19 |
4.7 22 |
|
Condition of the natural environment |
14.3 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
2.9 |
82.8 |
4.4 29 |
4.9 29 |
|
Condition of developed recreation facilities |
0.0 |
0.0 |
2.8 |
43.4 |
53.8 |
4.5 17 |
4.5 20 |
|
Condition of forest roads |
11.6 |
3.9 |
15.5 |
62.8 |
6.1 |
3.5 27 |
3.8 28 |
|
Condition of forest trails |
1.3 |
0.0 |
9.5 |
63.1 |
26.1 |
4.1 29 |
4.0 29 |
|
Availability of information on recreation |
1.8 |
3.2 |
12.6 |
12.5 |
69.9 |
4.5 25 |
4.3 27 |
|
Feeling of safety |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
9.6 |
90.4 |
4.9 29 |
4.9 29 |
|
Adequacy of signage |
11.3 |
1.6 |
15.0 |
37.5 |
34.6 |
3.8 29 |
4.3 29 |
|
Helpfulness of employees |
0.0 |
0.0 |
7.5 |
6.0 |
86.5 |
4.8 26 |
4.6 27 |
|
Attractiveness of the forest landscape |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
2.7 |
97.3 |
5.0 28 |
4.9 29 |
|
Value for fee paid |
0.0 |
0.0 |
59.6 |
20.0 |
20.4 |
3.6 9 |
3.4 14 |
* Scale is: P = poor F =
fair A = average G = good
VG = very good
** Scale is: 1= not important 2= somewhat important 3=moderately important 4= important 5 = very important
(n) = number of responses upon which this rating is based
A description of visitor activity during their national forest
visit was developed. This basic
information includes participation in various recreation activities, length of
stay on the national forest and at recreation sites, visitor satisfaction with
national forest facilities and services, and economic expenditures.
The average length of stay on this forest for a national
forest visit was 42.3 hours. Over
fifty-one percent (51.6%) of visitors stayed overnight on the forest.
In addition, visitors reported how much time they spent on the
specific recreation site at which they were interviewed. Average time spent varied considerably by
site and is displayed in Table 12.
|
Site Visit Average |
DUDS |
OUDS |
Wilderness |
GFA |
|
7.2 |
66.8 |
4.6 |
66.8 |
The average recreation visitor went to 1.2 sites during their
national forest visit. Forest visitors
sometimes go to just one national forest site or area during their visit. For example, downhill skiers may just go the
ski area and nowhere else. Eighty-five
percent of visitors went only to the site at which they were interviewed.
During their visit to the forest, the top five recreation
activities of the visitors were relaxing, viewing natural features, viewing
wildlife, hiking/walking, and driving for pleasure (see Table 13). Each visitor also picked one of these
activities as their primary activity for their current recreation visit to the
forest. The top primary activities were
relaxing, fishing, hiking/walking, and developed camping (see Table 13). Please note that the results of the NVUM
activity analysis DO NOT identify the types of activities visitors would like
to have offered on the national forests.
It also does not tell us about displaced forest visitors, those who no
longer visit the forest because the activities they desire are not
offered.
|
Activity |
Percent participation |
Percent who said it was their primary
activity |
|
Camping in developed sites (family or
group) |
7.2 |
|
|
Primitive camping |
19.4 |
3.3 |
|
Backpacking, camping
in unroaded areas |
4.0 |
0.1 |
|
Resorts, cabins and
other accommodations on Forest Service managed lands (private or Forest
Service run) |
13.7 |
0.0 |
|
Picnicking and family
day gatherings in developed sites (family or group) |
47.8 |
1.5 |
|
Viewing wildlife,
birds, fish, etc on national forest system lands |
73.5 |
1.0 |
|
Viewing natural
features such as scenery, flowers, etc on national forest system lands |
79.3 |
3.5 |
|
Visiting historic and
prehistoric sites/area |
11.0 |
0.1 |
|
Visiting a nature
center, nature trail or visitor information services |
18.3 |
0.5 |
|
Nature Study |
4.8 |
0.0 |
|
General/other-
relaxing, hanging out, escaping noise and heat, etc, |
84.2 |
41.3 |
|
Fishing- all types |
50.5 |
19.6 |
|
Hunting- all types |
3.0 |
1.3 |
|
Off-highway vehicle
travel (4-wheelers, dirt bikes, etc) |
11.3 |
4.0 |
|
Driving for pleasure
on roads |
53.3 |
3.2 |
|
Snowmobile travel |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
Motorized water travel
(boats, ski sleds, etc) |
6.8 |
0.2 |
|
Other motorized land/air activities (plane,
other) |
1.1 |
0.0 |
|
Hiking or walking |
62.2 |
8.7 |
|
Horseback riding |
3.4 |
0.4 |
|
Bicycling, including
mountain bikes |
11.5 |
0.3 |
|
Non-motorized water
travel (canoe, raft, etc.) |
6.4 |
0.0 |
|
Downhill skiing or
snowboarding |
0.1 |
0.0 |
|
Cross-country skiing,
snow shoeing |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
Other non-motorized
activities (swimming, games and sports) |
6.9 |
0.9 |
|
Gathering mushrooms,
berries, firewood, or other natural products |
27.6 |
0.2 |
Twenty-five percent of
the last exiting recreation visitors interviewed were asked about the types of
constructed facilities and special designated areas they used during their
visit. The most used facilities/areas
were: forest roads, nonmotorized trails, scenic byways, picnic areas, and
developed campgrounds. Table 14 provides
a summary of facility and special area use.
|
Facility / Area Type |
Percent who said they
used (national forest visits) |
|
Developed campground |
|
|
Swimming area |
3.0 |
|
Hiking, biking, or horseback trails |
52.5 |
|
Scenic byway |
53.4 |
|
Designated Wilderness |
15.0 |
|
Visitor center, museum |
17.0 |
|
Forest Service office or other info site |
10.6 |
|
Picnic area |
42.9 |
|
Boat launch |
16.1 |
|
Designated Off Road Vehicle area |
3.0 |
|
Other forest roads |
52.4 |
|
Interpretive site |
3.1 |
|
Organization camp |
4.2 |
|
Developed fishing site/ dock |
34.8 |
|
Designated snowmobile area |
0.1 |
|
Downhill ski area |
0.2 |
|
Nordic ski area |
0.0 |
|
Lodges/Resorts on National Forest System land |
1.7 |
|
Fire Lookouts/Cabins Forest Service owned |
3.9 |
|
Designated snow play area |
1.5 |
|
Motorized developed trails |
1.7 |
|
Recreation residences |
3.4 |
Twenty-five percent of visitors interviewed were asked about
the primary destination of their recreation trip. Since some people may incorporate a visit to
the national forests as only part of a larger trip away from home, not all visitors
chose the national forest as their primary destination. Of the 10 percent of
visitors that went to other areas than just this national forest on their
recreation trip, 80 percent said this forest was their primary trip
destination.
Visitors were asked to select one of several substitute
choices, if for some reason they were unable to visit this national
forest. Their responses are shown in
Table 15.
The average recreation visitor on the forest was away from home on their trip for 118 hours. In the 12 months prior to the interview the visitors had come to this forest 3.2 times to participate in their identified main activity.
|
Substitute Choice |
Percent who would have… |
|
Gone somewhere else for
the same activity |
|
|
Gone somewhere else for
a different activity |
3.8 |
|
Come back another time |
17.0 |
|
Stayed home |
31.6 |
|
Gone to work at their
regular job |
0.7 |
|
None of these |
1.7 |
In a typical year, visitors to this forest spent an average of
$1468.40 on all outdoor recreation activities including equipment, recreation
trips, memberships, and licenses.
Visitors
estimated the amount of money spent per person within a 50-mile radius of the
recreation site at which they were interviewed during their recreation trip to
the area (which may include multiple national forest visits, as well as visits
to other forests or parks). This
information is available in a separate report and data file that can be used
for planning analysis.
Twenty-five percent of visitors interviewed on the forest rated their
satisfaction with the recreation facilities and services provided. Although their satisfaction ratings pertain
to conditions at the specific site or area they visited, this information is
not valid at the site-specific level.
The survey design does not usually have enough responses for every individual
site or area on the forest to draw these conclusions. Rather, the information is generalized to
overall satisfaction with facilities and services on the forest as a
whole.
Visitors’ site-specific answers may be colored by a particular condition on
a particular day at a particular site.
For example, a visitor camping in a developed campground when all the
forest personnel are off firefighting and the site has not been cleaned. Perhaps the garbage had not been emptied or
the toilets cleaned during their stay, although the site usually receives
excellent maintenance. The visitor may
have been very unsatisfied with the cleanliness of restrooms.
In addition to how satisfied visitors were with facilities and services they were asked how important that particular facility or service was to the quality of their recreation experience. The importance of these elements to the visitors’ recreation experience is then analyzed in relation to their satisfaction. Those elements that were extremely important to a visitor’s overall recreation experience and the visitor rated as poor quality are those elements needing most attention by the forest. Those elements that were rated not important to the visitors’ recreation experience need the least attention.
Tables 16 through 18 summarize visitor satisfaction with the forest facilities and services at Day Use Developed sites, Overnight Developed sites and General Forest areas. Wilderness satisfaction is reported in Table 11. To interpret this information for possible management action, one must look at both the importance and satisfaction ratings. If visitors rated an element a 1 or 2 they are telling management that particular element is not very important to the overall quality of their recreation experience. Even if the visitors rated that element as poor or fair, improving this element may not necessarily increase visitor satisfaction because the element was not that important to them. On the other hand, if visitors rated an element as a 5 or 4 they are saying this element is very important to the quality of their recreation experience. If their overall satisfaction with that element is not very good, management action here can increase visitor satisfaction.
|
Item Name |
Item by Percent response by * P F A G VG |
Mean ** Satisfaction Of Visitors (n) |
Mean ** Importance To Visitors (n) |
||||
|
Scenery |
0.0 |
0.1 |
11.7 |
88.2 |
4.9 114 |
4.8 109 |
|
|
Available parking |
10.2 |
3.0 |
19.2 |
35.7 |
31.9 |
3.8 113 |
4.1 108 |
|
Parking lot condition |
0.0 |
7.9 |
20.6 |
38 |
33.5 |
4.0 110 |
3.7 105 |
|
Cleanliness of restrooms |
17 |
6.5 |
14.8 |
34.1 |
27.6 |
3.5 82 |
4.5 87 |
|
Condition of the natural environment |
0.3 |
0.0 |
4.8 |
47.4 |
47.5 |
4.4 113 |
4.7 108 |
|
Condition of developed recreation facilities |
7.6 |
0.3 |
14.8 |
38.2 |
39.1 |
4.0 97 |
4.4 97 |
|
Condition of forest roads |
3.9 |
5.7 |
26.3 |
40.9 |
23.2 |
3.7 105 |
4.0 102 |
|
Condition of forest trails |
4.6 |
0.0 |
15.2 |
53.3 |
26.9 |
4.0 77 |
3.9 82 |
|
Availability of information on recreation |
4.4 |
10.1 |
9.9 |
36 |
39.6 |
4.0 93 |
3.8 95 |
|
Feeling of safety |
0.4 |
3.5 |
15.5 |
33.7 |
46.9 |
4.2 111 |
4.6 106 |
|
Adequacy of signage |
6.9 |
1.5 |
25 |
33.5 |
33.1 |
3.8 111 |
4.2 105 |
|
Helpfulness of employees |
0.0 |
0.4 |
0.0 |
23.3 |
76.3 |
4.8 100 |
4.4 98 |
|
Attractiveness of the forest landscape |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.4 |
20.5 |
79.1 |
4.8 112 |
4.7 104 |
|
Value for fee paid |
5.5 |
5.9 |
40.5 |
30.3 |
17.8 |
3.5 51 |
3.9 55 |
*
Scale is: P = poor F = fair A = average
G = good VG = very good
**
Scale is: 1= not important 2= somewhat
important 3=moderately important 4= important 5 = very important
n= number of responses on which rating is based.
|
Item Name |
Item by Percent response by * P F A G VG |
Mean ** Satisfaction Of Visitors (n) |
Mean ** Importance To Visitors (n) |
||||
|
Scenery |
0.1 |
11.7 |
17.0 |
71.2 |
4.6 47 |
4.3 46 |
|
|
Available parking |
2.7 |
0.2 |
8.1 |
43.2 |
45.7 |
4.3 46 |
4.0 45 |
|
Parking lot condition |
0.0 |
0.2 |
28.5 |
17.0 |
54.3 |
4.3 43 |
3.9 42 |
|
Cleanliness of restrooms |
19.8 |
3.1 |
20.0 |
20.5 |
36.6 |
3.5 42 |
4.4 44 |
|
Condition of the natural environment |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.1 |
45.8 |
54.1 |
4.5 47 |
4.4 46 |
|
Condition of developed recreation facilities |
0.0 |
0.0 |
15.8 |
38.7 |
45.5 |
4.3 41 |
4.2 42 |
|
Condition of forest roads |
0.0 |
3.2 |
19.4 |
42.1 |
35.4 |
4.1 44 |
3.9 43 |
|
Condition of forest trails |
0.0 |
0.0 |
12.2 |
58.1 |
29.7 |
4.2 29 |
3.6 32 |
|
Availability of information on recreation |
0.0 |
0.1 |
3.5 |
56.6 |
39.8 |
4.4 36 |
4.2 40 |
|
Feeling of safety |
0.0 |
0.1 |
0.1 |
36.3 |
63.5 |
4.6 47 |
4.4 45 |
|
Adequacy of signage |
2.9 |
0.1 |
4.1 |
46.4 |
46.6 |
4.3 45 |
4.2 44 |
|
Helpfulness of employees |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
18.9 |
81.1 |
4.8 45 |
4.3 43 |
|
Attractiveness of the forest landscape |
0.0 |
0.0 |
11.5 |
31.4 |
57.1 |
4.5 47 |
4.3 45 |
|
Value for fee paid |
4.8 |
4.8 |
6.5 |
24.9 |
59.0 |
4.3 30 |
3.9 32 |
*
Scale is: P = poor F = fair A = average
G = good VG = very good
** Scale is: 1= not important 2= somewhat important 3=moderately important 4= important 5 = very important
(n) = number of responses upon which this rating is
based
|
Item Name |
Item by Percent response by * P F A G VG |
Mean ** Satisfaction Of Visitors (n) |
Mean ** Importance To Visitors (n) |
||||
|
Scenery |
26.5 |
0.8 |
2.3 |
70.4 |
4.2 73 |
4.8 72 |
|
|
Available parking |
1.4 |
1.4 |
7.8 |
73.2 |
16.2 |
4.0 53 |
3.4 55 |
|
Parking lot condition |
0.9 |
2.8 |
3.2 |
78.3 |
14.7 |
4.0 44 |
3.2 48 |
|
Cleanliness of restrooms |
0.9 |
1.3 |
3.7 |
30.2 |
63.8 |
4.5 37 |
4.2 44 |
|
Condition of the natural environment |
0.5 |
0.0 |
0.7 |
44.2 |
54.7 |
4.5 73 |
4.8 72 |
|
Condition of developed recreation facilities |
0.0 |
1.4 |
2.2 |
74.1 |
22.3 |
4.2 46 |
4.2 52 |
|
Condition of forest roads |
29.1 |
17.8 |
9.4 |
32.6 |
11.1 |
2.8 72 |
4.3 71 |
|
Condition of forest trails |
26.6 |
0.0 |
5.7 |
54.7 |
13.0 |
3.3 43 |
4.2 45 |
|
Availability of information on recreation |
0.4 |
2.1 |
11.4 |
46.6 |
39.6 |
4.2 52 |
3.4 55 |
|
Feeling of safety |
1.1 |
0.0 |
12.2 |
28.1 |
58.7 |
4.4 70 |
4.3 71 |
|
Adequacy of signage |
1.4 |
13.8 |
6.7 |
62.3 |
15.7 |
3.8 70 |
3.7 68 |
|
Helpfulness of employees |
0.0 |
0.0 |
1.7 |
10.7 |
87.6 |
4.9 62 |
3.9 63 |
|
Attractiveness of the forest landscape |
0.0 |
0.0 |
12.9 |
34.6 |
52.4 |
4.4 73 |
4.6 70 |
|
Value for fee paid |
1.8 |
0.0 |
4.4 |
72.7 |
21.0 |
4.1 22 |
3.9 31 |
*
Scale is: P = poor F = fair A = average
G = good VG = very good
** Scale is: 1= not important 2= somewhat important 3=moderately important 4= important 5 = very important
(n) = number of responses upon which this rating is based
Visitors rated their perception of how
crowded the recreation site or area felt to them. This information is useful when looking at
the type of site the visitor was using since someone visiting a designated
Wilderness may think 5 people is too many while someone visiting a developed
campground may think 200 people is about right.
Table 19 summarizes mean perception of crowding by site type on a scale of
1 to 10 where 1 means hardly anyone was there, and a 10 means the area was
perceived as overcrowded.
|
Overnight
Developed Sites |
Day Use Developed Sites |
Wilderness |
General Forest Areas |
|
|
10 Over
crowded |
8.6 |
0.0 |
5.1 |
|
|
9 |
0.0 |
5.1 |
0.0 |
0.5 |
|
8 |
5.5 |
18.7 |
0.0 |
2.6 |
|
7 |
5.8 |
10.6 |
0.0 |
8.8 |
|
6 |
28.7 |
7.8 |
4.2 |
34.1 |
|
5 |
24.4 |
13.6 |
2.7 |
6.6 |
|
4 |
3.0 |
10.1 |
13.8 |
21.6 |
|
3 |
21.0 |
5.0 |
6.5 |
15.5 |
|
2 |
10.8 |
18.6 |
46.7 |
5.3 |
|
1 Hardly
anyone there |
0.5 |
1.9 |
26.1 |
1.2 |
Visitors were asked if there were any accommodations or assistance that the forest could offer that would be helpful to the visitor and anyone in their group to improve their recreation experience. Visitor responses are summarized below.
|
Site Name |
Is there any other accommodation or assistance we could
offer? Comments |
|
Water the
golf course |
|
|
|
We need
water on golf course (more grass) |
|
|
Need
algae cleaned out of Luna Lake |
|
|
Thinning
of forest helps, stron trees & lush grasses |
|
36) Rd.
249 GFA |
Handicap
facilities for handicap users only |
|
|
More
signs to roads |
|
|
Improve
the bathroom |
|
|
Too much
environmental input, in disagreement of the number of road closures |
|
41) Rd.
275/191 GFA |
Need road
improvement!!! Need maintenance, very
bad shape. |
|
43) Pt.
of the Mountain GFA |
ATV's /
dirt bikes - limit areas of usage to reduce noise |
|
|
Why is
Big Lake visitors Center closed? It
was closed yeaterday also we are staying in Rainbow Campground, why are fees
so high for the facilities? |
|
|
More
paved roads - fewer dirt bikes |
|
58)
Rd.113/ Hwy 273 GFA |
Better
roads - campgrounds high in price. |
|
|
Blade
main roadway! |
|
|
Forest is
over managed - did not let us use anything but developed areas. |
|
|
Thanks
for the area! |
|
|
Protect
our public lands from the destruction caused by ORV and 4X4's |
|
59) Rd.
575- Gov’t Springs GFA |
Have more
Elk stand by the road so we can take pictures. |
|
|
Maintain
roads, even if you close during rainy season. |
|
|
Blade
road |
|
|
More
signage |
|
|
More
toilet paper / additional garbage cans |
|
|
More
information centers |
|
|
More ATV
trails |
|
63) Rd.
118 GFA |
Want
people to keep dogs in own camp area on leash. 5 dogs followed me into my camp last night. |
|
68) Rd.
61/404 GFA |
Grade
roads, don't like all the rocks in the sheeps crossing area |
|
69) Rd
117/60 Hideaway Rd GFA |
To many
regs - Lots of lost jobs, Washington doesn’t know what west is doing. |
|
|
Roads
could be better / graded more. |
|
|
On the
4th a pair of wolves came 35 yards from our camp - road 8307 & 8307B
18:00 get them out of here. |
|
70) Bush
Valley Traders GFA |
Please no
favoritisum, tours reinstated by we will pay for it |
|
|
We are
ATV riders who object to the closing of the forest roads. We are very
conscious of the environment & ride accordingly. |
|
6a) Rd.
300/260 Rim Top TH GFA |
Garbage
cans at vista's. |
|
|
Road #300
needs to be repaired |
|
|
Trash
cans in rim over look areas along R.R. 300, Woods Canyon |
|
|
Trash
cans in Military Sinkhole over look and all over looks |
|
|
Need rest
room at this site |
|
9a) Rd.
236/237/260 GFA |
Heavy
fines for trash dumping / clean up trash along roads, etc. Limit use of ATV's
on forest roads. |
|
|
Grade
bike paths every 3 years or so. |
|
18a) Rd.
86/260 GFA |
Remove
trash along road 86 |
|
|
Blade
Road |
|
|
Control
of campers fires by forest service along F.S. Rd. 86 |
|
58a) lee
Valley/ Sunrise OG GFA |
The
government keep out of it - let the people urn things - people are here &
understand it all. |
|
38d)
Porter Mtn. stable GFA |
Ask
Apache's to clan up their lake, I picked up beer containers and put them in
the near by trash |
|
40d) Pine
Top Equestrian Center GFA |
Signs in
Pinetop / Lakeside area showing locations of sites, facilities, etc. |
|
W-2)
Escudilla Nat’l Rec Trail TH Wilderness |
Larger
sign on HWY 191 for the F.R. #56 (Escadilla) turn off. |
|
|
Restrict
usage to keep forest pristine. |
|
|
Wildcat
crossing needs better signage, Bear Wallow-signage needed, Williams Valley
trail has tree across road. |
|
W-3)
Sheep Crossing #94 Wilderness |
Trail
maps, signs or trail for milegae, elevation types or trees, ets. |
|
|
Fewer
people / more wilderness trails |
|
|
No more
improvements on this area - we don't want lots of people in this area, just
right - perfect |
|
|
Drinking
water at end of trails / more mountain biking trails |
|
W-4)
Phelps TH Wilderness |
Need more
electrical hook up in campgrounds, need more level sites in campground for
trailers. |
|
W-6)
Trail 59 Bear Wallow @ Gobbler Wilderness |
This area
beautiful, keep up forest parks / better, need new signage for trails! |
|
W-7) 25c
Bear Wallow @ Reno Wilderness |
Farm the
forest like farmland - get work program to clean up forest. Bring back
logging & redeed. |
|
W-9) Bear
Wallow at Trail 317 Wilderness |
Repair
some bad erosion on trail #63. |
|
Hannagan
CG |
Don't
allow large RV's in area |
|
|
Need maps
at trail heads for hiking. Need more
courteous fisherman, Boat fisherman should stay 100 feet shore fishermen. |
|
|
Keep big
business out of the National Forest! |
|
|
This
campground is very clean and the restrooms are the cleanest weve seen |
|
Black
Jack CG |
No fees
on underdeveloped sites, better & clean restrooms, reservable sites
should be first come first serve or 1/2 available sites should be FCFS |
|
|
FS &
FS Law Enforcement need to get together on rules, trim trees so they do not
drag against trailors & campers.
Blade camp area roads/ fire rings not being used - fires everywhere |
|
HL Saddle
Family Picnic Day Use |
More
signage on HWY 191 stating upcoming trails, picnic areas, forest roads, etc. We missed several areas because we were by
them before we saw the signs too late to stop. The large forest map (revised 1996) is not
accureate for this area, needs to be updated. |
|
Sheep
Saddle Family Picnic day use |
It is not
right for Forest Service to charge to hike or picnic (camping yes). The poor people should be allowed to enjoy
the forest - also the lifetime senior pass has a $1 fee at picnic areas now
when I bought it years ago it was supposed to be free forever. |
|
Bear
Canyon Lake Fishing Day Use |
More
garbage cans |
|
|
More
control on dirt bikes, ATV's |
|
|
More
control of ATV's |
|
|
Better
maintained restrooms |
|
|
More
trash cans |
|
Rocky
Point Picnic/ Parking Day use |
This
should not be a fee area |
|
|
Need more
camping spaces, working man can't compete, retired |
|
|
Need more
FS employees patrolling Woods Canyon Lake and campground areas on weekends
and every evening. This area is over used presently - the area needs
protection from future erosion, vandalism and other problems associated with
high use areas. |
|
|
$5 is too
much to pay to picnic. |
|
|
More
access to campgrounds/ reservations |
|
|
More fish
in lake |
|
|
$5 to
picnic is a little steep |
|
Woods
Canyon Group CG |
Showers
in the group area, stand up barbeques, larger trout stocked in Woods Canyon
Lake |
|
|
Shower in
the group area. |
|
Woods
Canyon Marina / Picnic Day use |
More
trash cans |
|
|
Better
road signs |
|
|
Too much
litter after weekends |
|
|
Additional
parking |
|
|
Larger
signs/ more signs/ lined parking spaces |
|
|
Cars are
parking in boat launch area |
|
|
More
parking for cars & boat trailers |
|
|
Need more
parking, is very bad, Rangers need to ticket the ones in wrong parking spaces |
|
Black
Canyon Lake Day Use |
Catch the
bear from last night |
|
|
Picnic
tables and beaches near parking lot |
|
|
Stock
more fish |
|
|
Picnic
tables at lakes |
|
|
Pave the
road |
|
|
No ATV's
or dirt bikes around lake |
|
|
Restrict
ATV's and dirt bikes. |
|
|
Blade
roads |
|
|
Blade
roads |
|
Mogollon
Rim Visitor Center Day Use |
Move
aggressive Bears |
|
|
Raise
taxes to keep forest in shape |
|
|
Less God
control, better control burn, more timber removable, more & better access
to off road camping. |
|
|
More
horse facilities |
|
|
Mogallion
River sign needs to be moreclear - instead of Rim Lakes information |
|
|
Lower the
age of the golden pass port program |
|
|
Road at
Woods Canyon - Chuck holes |
|
|
Covered
area at Nelson Res great we need more |
|
|
Plow out
in winter for bathroom |
|
|
Open
facilities year round - visitors center |
|
|
Stop
closing roads - open some closed roads back up. |
|
|
Motorcycle
parking |
|
|
Concession
workers too powerful in charging camping fees in addition to charging for
picnicing, showers, dumpster, etc.
More signs on trails- types of trees, miles, etc. Forest Service should take back concession
jobs and hire additional forest employees. |
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Better
sign to show visitors center |
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Clean up
restrooms! |
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Develop
more full / partial hookup campground |
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Put up
more speed limit signs |
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Al Fulton
Picnic- Black Day Use |
Repair
markers on Crooke trail along 300 road |
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Grade
road #171 behind visitors center off of HWY 260 - bad holes in road |
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I called
twice last night to sheriff’s dept and no one came to correct problem. Rd 171 - campsite H-17 Sunday night Sept 1
- campers were loud till 4 am and left trash when they left. |
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Blade
this road |
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Rolfe C.
Hoyer CG |
More
sites OK but keep developers out. |
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Signage
so bad, no place for friends to visit, showers need open sooner, parking
verry bad |
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Need more
money to keep up campground |
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Need
electric & sewage & more showers |
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Greer
Lakes Complex Day Use |
Need
garbage cans - stop shooting at the signs |
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Love it
here |
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Leave it
alone! |
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Winn
Family/Group CG |
Lee
Valley parking lot need leveling, people disobey fishing rules such as
fly-fishing - using bate. |
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Big Lake
Visitor Center Day Use |
Cleaner
bathrooms & more toilet paper |
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River
Reservoir South Day Use |
Need
signs to this site (River Reservior South) at paved road and dirt road. |
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Lewis
Canyon Group CG |
Keep
cattle out - more restrooms |
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Need
water - not drinking |
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Scott
Reservoir CG |
Charge
more or raise taxes to maintain forest. |
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Men's
restroom needs screens on door vents (flies bad), blade roads |
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Why just
a 5 day limit on camping? Should be 14
days, grade roads |
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Stock
more bass in this lake |
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Find
water else where, so they don't drain Scott's Res again |
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I want
access to my national forest, special interest I'm not interested in, Keep
park & rec going, environmentalist are not out for the best |